{"id":2854,"date":"2018-02-26T03:30:49","date_gmt":"2018-02-26T09:30:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/andreajoywenburg.com\/?p=2854"},"modified":"2018-03-03T08:33:29","modified_gmt":"2018-03-03T14:33:29","slug":"using-curiosity-to-create-passion-with-john-lee-dumas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/andreajoywenburg.com\/using-curiosity-to-create-passion-with-john-lee-dumas\/","title":{"rendered":"Using Curiosity to Create Passion with John Lee Dumas"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Can we let our curiosity guide us into cultivating a new passion?<\/p>\n<p>John Lee Dumas is the Host of the incredibly successful podcast, Entrepreneur On Fire; which amasses 1.5 million listens every month and includes almost 2,000 episodes! He is also the author of The Freedom Journal and The Mastery Journal; which have been two of the most successfully funded Kickstarter campaigns in history.<\/p>\n<p>In this episode, we&#8217;ll find out why John Lee Dumas decided to follow his curiosity by becoming a podcaster instead of following his passion and becoming a basketball coach, why he thinks it&#8217;s important to focus on short-term goals, why he publicly releases monthly income statements, the ripple effect he hopes podcasts will have on the world, how entrepreneurship has changed since he started podcasting, and more!<\/p>\n<p>Mentioned in this episode:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.eofire.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">John Lee Dumas&#8217; Website<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.eofire.com\/podcast\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">John Lee Dumas&#8217; Entrepreneur On Fire Podcast<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/thefreedomjournal.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">John Lee Dumas&#8217; Book: The Freedom Journal<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.themasteryjournal.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">John Lee Dumas&#8217; Book: The Mastery Journal<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Play here (the red triangle below), on<span style=\"color: #800000;\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/voiceofinfluences-podcast\/id1223799516\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=135618&amp;refid=stpr\">Stitcher<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/Voice-of-Influence-Personal-Branding-p1009849\/\">TuneIn Radio<\/a> <\/span>(Amazon Alexa) or wherever you listen to podcasts.<\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-2857 alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-FB-ad.jpg?resize=630%2C350\" alt=\"\" width=\"630\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-FB-ad.jpg?w=810&amp;ssl=1 810w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-FB-ad.jpg?resize=300%2C167&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-FB-ad.jpg?resize=768%2C427&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-FB-ad.jpg?resize=760%2C422&amp;ssl=1 760w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-FB-ad.jpg?resize=518%2C288&amp;ssl=1 518w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-FB-ad.jpg?resize=82%2C46&amp;ssl=1 82w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-FB-ad.jpg?resize=600%2C333&amp;ssl=1 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none;\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/6292752\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/autoplay\/no\/autonext\/no\/thumbnail\/yes\/preload\/no\/no_addthis\/no\/direction\/backward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/ad2c30\/\" width=\"100%\" height=\"90\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h2>Transcript<\/h2>\n<p><strong>Andrea:<\/strong> \u00a0John Lee Dumas, it\u2019s great to have you on the Voice of Influence podcast.<\/p>\n<p><strong>John Lee Dumas:\u00a0 <\/strong>Andrea, I am fired up to be here.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andrea<\/strong>:\u00a0 I would love to just jump in and ask, what is something that really drives you as an entrepreneur, as a voice of influence in the world?<\/p>\n<p><strong>John Lee Dumas:\u00a0 <\/strong>You know what I think has been driving me recently is what I call the ripple effect because now that I\u2019ve interviewed over 1750 successful entrepreneurs, I\u2019ve been able to see not just their progression but the listeners of my shows progression and the emails that I get from people who have been inspired by one of my guests or just by the body of work, etc that have gone on to do something and they\u2019re now inspiring other people that myself and my show never would have reach.\u00a0 It\u2019s just this ripple effect that I\u2019m loving and I just know that you know, Andrea, people like yourself and me and everybody who\u2019s listening and creating content like we\u2019re having this kind of unseen ripple effect, just having this powerful effect to<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>better world.\u00a0 To me, it\u2019s just exciting to know the power of that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andrea<\/strong>:\u00a0 Is there anything in particular that you\u2019re hoping is the difference its making like what is the difference that you\u2019re hoping this ripple effect will actually make on the world?<\/p>\n<p><strong>John Lee Dumas<\/strong>:\u00a0 I hope this going to open people\u2019s eyes and if it opens people\u2019s eyes to realize that they\u2019re on the right track in life that\u2019s awesome. \u00a0Like it will open people\u2019s eyes to realize that they want to be getting their ninth degree in graduate school then that\u2019s awesome.\u00a0 I hope that does but then I also hope it opens people eyes up like mine who were shut from the first 32 years of my life to know that there\u2019s other opportunities out there.\u00a0 There are other ways to go about this world than just accruing hundreds of thousands of dollars to student loan debt and getting crippled into a path that you really have no other way out of.<\/p>\n<p>For me, I was able to avoid that narrowly just because of my military and ROTC army scholarship, so I wasn\u2019t crippled with that debt from day one.\u00a0 There\u2019s nothing sadder to me than people who are limiting their futures before they even know what they\u2019re doing.\u00a0 So I want them to be amazing doctors in this world and lawyers, veterinarians, dentists, and all of those great things.\u00a0 They need to go on their path and I will encourage them all the way home.\u00a0 But I want other people to know that are just doing it to do something.<\/p>\n<p>There are so many people they just go to law school because they just know what else to do.\u00a0 I was one of those people and I hated it.\u00a0 It was a $20,000 one semester in the state, like I can\u2019t get that back.\u00a0 That was just one semester; multiply that by six for most people.\u00a0 So that\u2019s just an example of what I want is just people\u2019s eyes to be open and maybe it\u2019s going to resonate with them and maybe it won\u2019t.\u00a0 But at least, I just want to put the opportunity and the information out there.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andrea:<\/strong>\u00a0 Have you seen a difference change on entrepreneurship in the last few years since you started podcasting?<\/p>\n<p><strong>John Lee Dumas<\/strong>:\u00a0 You know, I\u2019ve seen a lot more people that are really following their curiosity, which I like.\u00a0 Because for a long time, it was just following your passion, like what excites you most and there\u2019s good and bad to that.\u00a0 The good to that is sometimes it works and sometimes following your passion is an amazing thing.\u00a0 But sometimes what a lot of people are doing is their taking some things they\u2019re passionate about, they\u2019re making it work and stress and then they\u2019re hating their passion and then they\u2019re <img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-2861 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Pinterest-3.jpg?resize=410%2C615\" alt=\"\" width=\"410\" height=\"615\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Pinterest-3.jpg?resize=683%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 683w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Pinterest-3.jpg?resize=200%2C300&amp;ssl=1 200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Pinterest-3.jpg?resize=267%2C400&amp;ssl=1 267w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Pinterest-3.jpg?resize=82%2C123&amp;ssl=1 82w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Pinterest-3.jpg?resize=600%2C900&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Pinterest-3.jpg?w=735&amp;ssl=1 735w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 410px) 100vw, 410px\" \/>extinguishing that fire and now it\u2019s not working anymore.<\/p>\n<p>So they have taken that thing they love most in life and they kind of made it into a job that they no longer like.\u00a0 So that\u2019s not always the path.\u00a0 It might be a path to explore but at the same time, for me, I was never passionate about podcasting.\u00a0 I was curious about having conversations with successful entrepreneurs because I wanted to know out of curiosity what was making them tick, why they were successful.\u00a0 But I wasn\u2019t passionate about podcasting as a medium, I just knew that that was a way that they\u2019re going to be able to share this conversation that I was curious about with other people and then that turned into something amazing.<\/p>\n<p>You know, if I followed my passions, I would have probably tried to become a college basketball coach and who knows where I\u2019d be right now.\u00a0 But guess what, I love college basketball and I can sit here now in Puerto Rico and watch my team probably college play and just love every second of it and I have to extinguish that passion because it\u2019s still there for me.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andrea:<\/strong>\u00a0 You know, this concept of passion is really, really fascinating to me.\u00a0 But I\u2019m wondering if there\u2019s something similar, there\u2019s some sort of underlying maybe commonality between what you\u2019re doing now, the entrepreneurship, the interviewing, the competitive nature maybe even of entrepreneurship something in common with that college basketball passion that you have.\u00a0 What\u2019s the underlying thing that maybe you\u2019d see in both?<\/p>\n<p><strong>John Lee Dumas<\/strong>:\u00a0 You mean, combining like what I love about college basketball with broadcasting?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andrea:<\/strong>\u00a0 Not necessarily combining but maybe it\u2019s the drive to succeed, that thing underneath of both of the actual thing that you\u2019re doing, there\u2019s like the top level action or activity job, but then underneath of that is a motivation of some kind probably about who you are.\u00a0 You are somebody who is super focused and you\u2019re applying that in just in a different way.\u00a0 So I\u2019m just wondering if you had any thoughts about that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>John Lee Dumas<\/strong>:\u00a0 No, I do think there\u2019s a lot of people are going to realize that once you focus on something for a little while, that focus can either become more intense or it can kind of start to kind of lose its luster a little bit.\u00a0 That was interesting to me as I didn\u2019t know what that was going to be for podcasting for me.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know if I was going burned out, if I was going to stop and join the conversations, or just kind of lose momentum and it just ended up being the opposite.\u00a0 As I just had more conversations, I became better to have those conversations.<\/p>\n<p>So therefore, I was just finding myself enjoying those conversations a lot more.\u00a0 And when I think as kind of interesting kind of _____ you know a lot of people feel like they can only start something that number one, they\u2019re really good at.\u00a0 Or number two; they\u2019re really excited about, where the reality is sometimes when you focus enough to become good at something, the passion can follow.\u00a0 And that\u2019s what happened to me for podcasting.\u00a0 Podcasting for me at first was just scary to get on a mic and talk to people.\u00a0 There was no passion there at all.<\/p>\n<p>But then as I got more comfortable, as I got better, as I got to be a kickback and just have real fun conversations, I was like \u201cWow, I actually love podcasting.\u201d\u00a0 This is a dawning realization.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know what\u2019s going to happen.\u00a0 So for a lot of people just doing that thing and getting better and finding that comfort zone is going to kind of be the spring of passion as well.\u00a0 So I think you need to look at it too.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andrea:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yeah, yeah that\u2019s a good point.\u00a0 So you are somebody that is just super laser focused.\u00a0 I mean, even in just conversation with you, you\u2019re so good at just getting right down to the meat of what you want to say and that\u2019s sort of thing.\u00a0 What is it that you are focused on in terms of the goal that you have in life, like what are you headed towards?\u00a0 What\u2019s your focus in sort of a long game?<\/p>\n<p><strong>John Lee Dumas<\/strong>: It\u2019s interesting, so my focus for a long time has been in short game purposely because I wanted to grow Entrepreneurs on Fire.\u00a0 I wanted to make it a very financially successful business and now we\u2019ve done that.\u00a0 For years and years and years, we\u2019ve generate over $10 million in revenue.\u00a0 I\u2019ve been able to amass a huge <strong>_____<\/strong> of financial savings that really gives me now this flexibility of like \u201cOK, now that I\u2019ve kind of set myself financially for the long term, like what is next?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So now that I kind of taken care of that short term, that short-term thinking, now I\u2019m kind of sitting back and say \u201cOK, what is that legacy play?\u00a0 What\u2019s that thing that I may want to create that\u2019s not just talking about making a dollar today or dollar tomorrow but living a lasting legacy for years, for decades, or for potentially centuries to come if that\u2019s being possible.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s exciting to me so that\u2019s kind of having me think in some different areas, different places and just kind of say \u201cHey, what would this look like 10 years from now?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Honestly, for the first few years in my business, I was like \u201cWhat\u2019s this gonna look like 10 days from now?\u201d\u00a0 Because that\u2019s what was important building the business and that\u2019s what the focus was.\u00a0 I think that\u2019s important for people to realize, you can\u2019t start day one thinking you know \u201cHow am I gonna impact year 10?\u201d\u00a0 Because you can\u2019t impact year 10 if you can\u2019t actually put bread on the table for day 10, so you do have to take care of the short-term priority first.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andrea:<\/strong>\u00a0 Yeah.\u00a0 So you have the opportunity now that you feel like you\u2019ve kind of gotten to this point.\u00a0 You\u2019re ready to start thinking about but you\u2019re not totally sure with that legacy is that you\u2019re shooting towards.<\/p>\n<p><strong>John Lee Dumas:<\/strong>\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 But I\u2019m open to it which is the first time I\u2019ve ever been opened to it.\u00a0 So that\u2019s kind of interesting when you do open yourself up to something that\u2019s when the idea started to come and that\u2019s when the aha moment start to drop.\u00a0 Again, most of those ideas and aha moments are going to be really bad ones but there might be a couple good ones _____.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andrea:<\/strong>\u00a0 Sure!\u00a0 Yeah, you kind of set your interviews up with a low point because it seems like you\u2019re saying that after your low point, you start to move forward, right?\u00a0 Is there any kind of low point kind of thing that you\u2019ve experienced since your initial one that got your podcasting?\u00a0 How did these low points along your path, do they continued to direct you in the decisions that you\u2019re making in your business, in your life?<\/p>\n<p><strong><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-2862 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Instagram-2.jpg?resize=362%2C362\" alt=\"\" width=\"362\" height=\"362\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Instagram-2.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Instagram-2.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Instagram-2.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Instagram-2.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Instagram-2.jpg?resize=180%2C180&amp;ssl=1 180w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Instagram-2.jpg?resize=600%2C600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Instagram-2.jpg?resize=35%2C35&amp;ssl=1 35w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Instagram-2.jpg?resize=760%2C760&amp;ssl=1 760w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Instagram-2.jpg?resize=400%2C400&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Instagram-2.jpg?resize=82%2C82&amp;ssl=1 82w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Instagram-2.jpg?w=1080&amp;ssl=1 1080w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 362px) 100vw, 362px\" \/>John Lee Dumas<\/strong>:\u00a0 Absolutely!\u00a0 That\u2019s why we love publishing our monthly income report and we\u2019ve been doing it for 47 month because every single month, we\u2019re doing something wrong.\u00a0 We\u2019re making some kind of mistake or we\u2019re facing some kind of big obstacle and challenge in our business.\u00a0 About 16 months ago, I moved to Puerto Rico like moving a business from California you know the mainland to an island in the Caribbean.\u00a0 It\u2019s a challenge and it\u2019s a struggle and we learned a lot from that and those are just things that we love talking about our income report are those things that we didn\u2019t even know.\u00a0 We didn\u2019t realize for whatever reason the entire banking world looks at Puerto Rico as a third world country as opposed to US territory.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s just kind of one of those things were sometimes you can know these things that are going to come but sometimes you don\u2019t.\u00a0 But no matter how successful you are, you\u2019re still going to be facing your day-to-day struggles.\u00a0 Sometimes I kind of chuckle when I look at Biggie Smalls back in the day and you know he said, \u201cMore money, more problem.\u201d\u00a0 And that can honestly be the case in a lot of scenarios.\u00a0 Of course, I would always rather have money than not, but money does come with its own set of problems that you now have to deal with.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andrea<\/strong>:\u00a0 Well, I really appreciate you being on the podcast today.\u00a0 I do have one more question.<\/p>\n<p><strong>John Lee Dumas<\/strong>:\u00a0 Sure!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andrea<\/strong>:\u00a0 When did you feel like you\u2019d really kind of made it as a podcaster, as entrepreneur?\u00a0 What sort of goals did you have that you\u2019re like \u201cYes, I\u2019ve done it,\u201d or whatever?\u00a0 Is it the one that you\u2019ve most recently done with feeling like you can think of legacy now?<\/p>\n<p><strong>John Lee Dumas<\/strong>:\u00a0 You know what; I\u2019ve made it moment which is interesting.\u00a0 I actually used to ask this question on my podcast and I haven\u2019t thought about that for a long time.\u00a0 But I used to ask a question, like tell me about you\u2019re \u201cI\u2019ve made it\u201d moment. \u00a0I literally haven\u2019t thought about that for probably years, but it\u2019s an interesting question.\u00a0 I will maybe share one kind of \u201cI\u2019ve made it\u201d moment was that when I launched the show, I remember thinking to myself \u201cHow cool would it be if someday one of the people that I look up to the most, that of course doesn\u2019t even know that I exists right now, but one day they come to me and they ask to be on my show because they know that there\u2019s going to be an incredible power and impact to what they\u2019re doing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>You know, a little over a year and half ago that happened and Tony Robbins had his team reached out to me specifically asking to be on my show.\u00a0 The moment we jumped off to the pre-interview chat, he made a comment and he goes \u201cJohn, I just wanna say I\u2019m really impressed of what you\u2019ve done.\u00a0 My son and I were talking about you the other day.\u201d\u00a0 Just that quick comment of like Tony Robbins was talking about me in a personal conversation with his son. \u00a0I came up somehow that I was on the radar like \u201cWow,\u201d that was kind of I\u2019ve made it moment to know that with all that he has done and what he\u2019s doing in the world.\u00a0 So that was a really cool experience for me and that\u2019s one that I was going to look back and smile and say \u201cYou know what, I didn\u2019t know what I was doing when I launched but thank God, I launched.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Andrea:<\/strong>\u00a0 Oh wow and you stayed focus and you stayed with the course. \u00a0You found your passion in the midst of it.\u00a0 And now I wish you great luck and may you find that legacy thing that you really want to live for the world even beyond your podcast, even doing in all the courses and other things that you have to offer.\u00a0 I just thank you for sharing your voice of influence with the listeners today.<\/p>\n<p><strong>John Lee Dumas<\/strong>:\u00a0 Andrea, thank you so much for having me.\u00a0 It was a blast!<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2860\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Twitter-Quote-3.jpg?resize=760%2C422\" alt=\"\" width=\"760\" height=\"422\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Twitter-Quote-3.jpg?w=810&amp;ssl=1 810w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Twitter-Quote-3.jpg?resize=300%2C167&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/andreajoywenburg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/JLD-43-Twitter-Quote-3.jpg?resize=768%2C427&amp;ssl=1 768w, 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John Lee Dumas is the Host of the incredibly successful podcast, Entrepreneur On Fire; which amasses 1.5 million listens every month and includes almost 2,000 episodes! 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